On the season 1 finale, Jamie and Taye uncover what’s been hiding in plain sight. Race and our history of white supremacy. The influence of the bishops on politics and what does it really mean to have a preferential option for the poor. Jamie’s hopes for Pope Francis and her long game for women to be seen as equal in the church.

On this 2 part season finale, a risk taker and woman of courage - Jamie Manson. She is best known for her writing for the National Catholic Reporter where in her very first article she came out as a lesbian. She is a Yale Divinity schooled Theologian, award winning writer and editor… and President of Catholics for Choice.

Jamie and Taye explore the last radical patriarchy, motives and how to navigate the morally complex questions around abortion and women’s fertility.

Father Thomas and I continue our discussion on the Catholic church’s position on topics of Excommunication, Pro-Choice Catholics, weighing the vote and who is in the center of the decision? Might there be common ground.

I ask Father Thomas where the Catholic church and community is today from a place at the center of his work and Ann’s abortion story.

Ann recounts what it was like moving to a small town in high school, navigating a parent’s divorce and making a decision in college that will forever influence how she leads her life and builds community today.